Led Zeppelin 2 ii, 2014 lp record reissue reviewed,compared to the classic records 200 gram reissue
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Led Zeppelin 2 ii, 2014 lp record reissue reviewed,compared to the classic records 200 gram reissue
Led Zeppelin 2 ii, 2014 reissue compared to the classic records 200 gram reissue also the new Friday music 180 gram reissue of the Moody Blues 1970 release Question of balance compared to a 1st edition Canadian pressing
Led Zeppelin 2 ii, 2014 reissue compared to the classic records 200 gram reissue also the new Friday music 180 gram reissue of the Moody Blues 1970 release Question of balance compared to a 1st edition Canadian pressing
I can see what Ron means here. Sure, the Atlantic reissues obviously
weren’t going to use the 2-3 track per side Classic method, but this is
just another case of committee involvement – make it cheap, make it fast,
here’s a solid state drive – now press away.
Jeez, you’d think they’d at least cut us a little slack and tack on the
Ludwig mix as a third disc for LZII. Ha! Like that’ll ever happen. That
master is probably sitting in a Monarch retiree’s basement somewhere in
California.
I found the LZII remaster on vinyl to be quite pleasing. Yes, it was
digitally sourced, but from 24-bit files, not 16-bit 44.1 Khz. The only
complaint I’d have about it is that it sounds a little less dynamic. To
date, all my other LZ albums are original pressings and they do have much
more dynamic range, but I wouldn’t say it sounds like the highs and lows
were cut off or that it lacked any dynamics. It is a well done remaster.
Maybe not the best the vinyl format has to offer, as evidenced by the old
pressings of other albums I have, but not bad. It’s a welcome upgrade from
the really old CD of LZII, as in, the first CD version released in the 80s.
I do enjoy this channel. I’m a semi-audiophile, ie, an audiophile with
little money, and your set up is probably far more revealing than mine.
Hopefully one day I’ll have a really great set up.
I’ve gone through 5 copies of the 2014 LZII vinyl reissue. They all had
excessive crackle on Bring it On Home during the quiet parts at the
beginning and end. Rest of songs are OK, nothing more than an occasional
pop here and there. Is your copy dead quiet all the way through? I’m using
rega rp3 + dynavector 10×5.
Rockin’ Ronnie? I think Ronnie’s hearing is shot. For $20 bucks get the
180g 2014 Reissues. Your search is over. They sound great. And yes, I grew
up buying and Listening to Vinyl. Ron is just ticked that he spent all that
money on the Classic records reissues.
Hi Ron, I have been watching your videos and I love them.
I have recently wanted to re-start my vinyl collection that I had years
ago. I know this is not related to Led Zeppelin BUT…I am in the market
for the Beatles Stereo vinyl boxset and since I have read many times that
the European version is way superior to the US version, I wondered (since I
am from Canada) how do I tell from a sealed copy of the box from any local
store or ordering from Amazon which one is from Europe and which one is the
US?? Are there any indicators that I got the pressing from Germany?
Here in Canada it states on the individually sold albums on it’s promo
label that it is from Capitol (US) Hollywood California.
Also, what should I be paying for the box? Here in Canada I found a sealed
for $319.99 and also I have seen some on Amazon for $289.99 …again not
knowing where it was actually pressed.
I would be grateful to you or anyone with any insight.
PS I am now starting to realize (from your videos that the Japanese
pressings are the way to go and incredible to see that majority are EX to
NM conditions.
I 100% agree with your comparison. I also compared my LZ II Classic Records
version to the new remaster and came to the same conclusions. The remaster
is garbage compared to Classic’s pressing.
what went so wrong with the 2014 led zep reissues, has jimmy page gone
deaf, those early led zep albums were some of my favorite albums when I was
a teenager, page is in the twilight of his career and after all he has
accomplished the only thing left is his legacy, how could page have a copy
of a copy as the big reissue of his music, how could page have records that
have such inferior sound quality as the last statement of his music
Thanks for the heads up. getting accustomed to check reviews before buying
neew vinyl. I do not want to waste my inflated hard earned cash of crappy
digital to analog vinyl
while i agree that it’s a little foolish that the remasters were done
digitally, largely (but not entirely) defeating the purpose of listening to
it on an analog format, i feel that you are judging it too harshly by
comparing it to the Classic Records copy. those cost upwards of 200-300
dollars for a new copy, no shit they’re going to sound better. Page is
aware that the hardcore audiophile zeppelin fans know where to go to find
the best possible sound. but what he’s done with the new remasters is
provide a still very decent sounding copy (with bonus material on a second
disc) for a price much more appropriate for the average consumer, as well
as revamping the band’s catalog and bringing it back to the forefront of
attention in rock music. i bet led zeppelin has acquired a good number of
new young fans because of these remasters. in addition, the focus of this
reissue campaign is not solely on the vinyl and its sonic value. there are
also CD copies (which since those are digital by nature, these remasters
probably ARE the best sounding digital copy you can get), deluxe box sets
including other collectible merchandise, and of course the companion discs.
The vinyl copies are just one part of this campaign.
PS. I got quite confused when you criticized the whole lotta love rough mix
for being a rough mix. it’s fucking called “rough mix,” the whole point is
that it doesn’t include every detail of the original album version…
very disappointing they came that close to the original masters and totally
blew it.i don’t get it,is it a money issue? gonna give my classic records
copy a spin today for the first time in years.do u have the CR version of
The Song Remains the Same? crazy highs on that one! keep up the good work
Ron,you’re like a vinyl scientist and i love every minute! sounds like the
record companies need a vinyl chemist,u should help them out.have a great
week my friend.
But how do they compare to an original “RL” pressing? The lighter brown
cover is similar to an original US pressing, while the darker brown is like
a UK pressing.
I have 3 “RL” Led Zeppelin 2’s. And they sound great. And will be worth
something. Classic used the analog masters. So did MoFi. and look at the
prices of those versions. They are priced too high for the market that
Jimmy Page was going for. He wants the college kids who are back in to
vinyl. And the time and money it would take to use the 40 year old master
tapes was too much. I guess. But if you’re gonna do something… do it
right.
I did not buy a single copy of these reissues and I will not, regardless of
what is on a companion disk. As educated customers, who pay a premium to
have an album on vinyl, we should find out if they are digital transfers on
our vinyl records. If they have any digital in the signal chain, for
something that was recorded and mixed in the analog domain, I will simply
NOT buy it. Different story for things that were recorded in digital,
originally. Page has made a big mistake, 5 or 10 years ago this would fly.
Now information is freely available and the number of reviewers, like
yourself is staggering. Guys doing reissues have the added challenge now of
producing top quality output else they will be called out for it and sales
will suffer. WE WANT QUALITY FOR $30-50 a record not a digital transfer,
RECORDS ARE NOT NOVELTY ITEMS we buy them to get the highest fidelity
version of our favorite music available. Well that is my rant. I can hardly
wait until someone else does this reissue the right way, before the tape
self destructs.
Also what i’ve noticed about led zeppelin ii is how other bands mimicked
their album cover style, for example the album La Novia from a Japanese
band was released 2001, the faces of the band members having been
airbrushed into a vintage photo. Or i guess it’s not really mimicking more
like paying an homage to Led Zeppelin.
I can see what Ron means here. Sure, the Atlantic reissues obviously
weren’t going to use the 2-3 track per side Classic method, but this is
just another case of committee involvement – make it cheap, make it fast,
here’s a solid state drive – now press away.
Jeez, you’d think they’d at least cut us a little slack and tack on the
Ludwig mix as a third disc for LZII. Ha! Like that’ll ever happen. That
master is probably sitting in a Monarch retiree’s basement somewhere in
California.
Thanks for the warning on LZ II! I was shopping for it, changed my mind.
I’ve had LZ III for three months- still haven’t played the original mix
yet…
I found the LZII remaster on vinyl to be quite pleasing. Yes, it was
digitally sourced, but from 24-bit files, not 16-bit 44.1 Khz. The only
complaint I’d have about it is that it sounds a little less dynamic. To
date, all my other LZ albums are original pressings and they do have much
more dynamic range, but I wouldn’t say it sounds like the highs and lows
were cut off or that it lacked any dynamics. It is a well done remaster.
Maybe not the best the vinyl format has to offer, as evidenced by the old
pressings of other albums I have, but not bad. It’s a welcome upgrade from
the really old CD of LZII, as in, the first CD version released in the 80s.
I do enjoy this channel. I’m a semi-audiophile, ie, an audiophile with
little money, and your set up is probably far more revealing than mine.
Hopefully one day I’ll have a really great set up.
I’ve gone through 5 copies of the 2014 LZII vinyl reissue. They all had
excessive crackle on Bring it On Home during the quiet parts at the
beginning and end. Rest of songs are OK, nothing more than an occasional
pop here and there. Is your copy dead quiet all the way through? I’m using
rega rp3 + dynavector 10×5.
Good video Ron. Very well explained.
Rockin’ Ronnie? I think Ronnie’s hearing is shot. For $20 bucks get the
180g 2014 Reissues. Your search is over. They sound great. And yes, I grew
up buying and Listening to Vinyl. Ron is just ticked that he spent all that
money on the Classic records reissues.
Since knows which is the original pressing? Because some discs the
instruments are listened to the left of the speaker, and in others to the
right…
Isn’t it just like the record company to be penny wise pound foolish… Too
bad they could have something real special.
Hi Ron, I have been watching your videos and I love them.
I have recently wanted to re-start my vinyl collection that I had years
ago. I know this is not related to Led Zeppelin BUT…I am in the market
for the Beatles Stereo vinyl boxset and since I have read many times that
the European version is way superior to the US version, I wondered (since I
am from Canada) how do I tell from a sealed copy of the box from any local
store or ordering from Amazon which one is from Europe and which one is the
US?? Are there any indicators that I got the pressing from Germany?
Here in Canada it states on the individually sold albums on it’s promo
label that it is from Capitol (US) Hollywood California.
Also, what should I be paying for the box? Here in Canada I found a sealed
for $319.99 and also I have seen some on Amazon for $289.99 …again not
knowing where it was actually pressed.
I would be grateful to you or anyone with any insight.
PS I am now starting to realize (from your videos that the Japanese
pressings are the way to go and incredible to see that majority are EX to
NM conditions.
You should send this video to Jimmy Page!
Also, first 2 tracks from the best version of IV, UK Plum-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2S_TY8OCONA&list=UUsSyoPM5UCSJW2huvH3wkyA
I 100% agree with your comparison. I also compared my LZ II Classic Records
version to the new remaster and came to the same conclusions. The remaster
is garbage compared to Classic’s pressing.
what went so wrong with the 2014 led zep reissues, has jimmy page gone
deaf, those early led zep albums were some of my favorite albums when I was
a teenager, page is in the twilight of his career and after all he has
accomplished the only thing left is his legacy, how could page have a copy
of a copy as the big reissue of his music, how could page have records that
have such inferior sound quality as the last statement of his music
Thanks for the heads up. getting accustomed to check reviews before buying
neew vinyl. I do not want to waste my inflated hard earned cash of crappy
digital to analog vinyl
while i agree that it’s a little foolish that the remasters were done
digitally, largely (but not entirely) defeating the purpose of listening to
it on an analog format, i feel that you are judging it too harshly by
comparing it to the Classic Records copy. those cost upwards of 200-300
dollars for a new copy, no shit they’re going to sound better. Page is
aware that the hardcore audiophile zeppelin fans know where to go to find
the best possible sound. but what he’s done with the new remasters is
provide a still very decent sounding copy (with bonus material on a second
disc) for a price much more appropriate for the average consumer, as well
as revamping the band’s catalog and bringing it back to the forefront of
attention in rock music. i bet led zeppelin has acquired a good number of
new young fans because of these remasters. in addition, the focus of this
reissue campaign is not solely on the vinyl and its sonic value. there are
also CD copies (which since those are digital by nature, these remasters
probably ARE the best sounding digital copy you can get), deluxe box sets
including other collectible merchandise, and of course the companion discs.
The vinyl copies are just one part of this campaign.
PS. I got quite confused when you criticized the whole lotta love rough mix
for being a rough mix. it’s fucking called “rough mix,” the whole point is
that it doesn’t include every detail of the original album version…
very disappointing they came that close to the original masters and totally
blew it.i don’t get it,is it a money issue? gonna give my classic records
copy a spin today for the first time in years.do u have the CR version of
The Song Remains the Same? crazy highs on that one! keep up the good work
Ron,you’re like a vinyl scientist and i love every minute! sounds like the
record companies need a vinyl chemist,u should help them out.have a great
week my friend.
But how do they compare to an original “RL” pressing? The lighter brown
cover is similar to an original US pressing, while the darker brown is like
a UK pressing.
making analog out of digital 1’s and zeros. The end is near.
Hi Ron, the best sounding II is the original US pressing “RL”. I’ve ripped
a few tracks to my youtube channel if you want to take a listen-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwdkPwvxdpM&list=UUsSyoPM5UCSJW2huvH3wkyA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhJwCHQiB-s&list=UUsSyoPM5UCSJW2huvH3wkyA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeSWsKeKFaI&list=UUsSyoPM5UCSJW2huvH3wkyA
I have 3 “RL” Led Zeppelin 2’s. And they sound great. And will be worth
something. Classic used the analog masters. So did MoFi. and look at the
prices of those versions. They are priced too high for the market that
Jimmy Page was going for. He wants the college kids who are back in to
vinyl. And the time and money it would take to use the 40 year old master
tapes was too much. I guess. But if you’re gonna do something… do it
right.
I did not buy a single copy of these reissues and I will not, regardless of
what is on a companion disk. As educated customers, who pay a premium to
have an album on vinyl, we should find out if they are digital transfers on
our vinyl records. If they have any digital in the signal chain, for
something that was recorded and mixed in the analog domain, I will simply
NOT buy it. Different story for things that were recorded in digital,
originally. Page has made a big mistake, 5 or 10 years ago this would fly.
Now information is freely available and the number of reviewers, like
yourself is staggering. Guys doing reissues have the added challenge now of
producing top quality output else they will be called out for it and sales
will suffer. WE WANT QUALITY FOR $30-50 a record not a digital transfer,
RECORDS ARE NOT NOVELTY ITEMS we buy them to get the highest fidelity
version of our favorite music available. Well that is my rant. I can hardly
wait until someone else does this reissue the right way, before the tape
self destructs.
Also what i’ve noticed about led zeppelin ii is how other bands mimicked
their album cover style, for example the album La Novia from a Japanese
band was released 2001, the faces of the band members having been
airbrushed into a vintage photo. Or i guess it’s not really mimicking more
like paying an homage to Led Zeppelin.
would you say that when they digitize the analog tapes and use the digital
version for the vinyl that that is some form of fraud? just wondering.
I would love to see you reviewing the new reissue of Pink floyd’s The
division bell :D